So for those of you following along at home, my download links are still currently offline, but I do plan to reinstate them with a disclaimer about the SDHB and a link to the fix (for those who don’t have it but still want the lots).
Sorry for any inadvertent dashboard spam or other trouble I may have caused. This will be the last of it (for tonight anyway), but just in case, I’ve started tagging related posts as “SDHB” if you’d like to blacklist it.
No worries! My feelings aren’t hurt – I’m fairly new to the phenomenon myself since it never occurred in my game, and my preliminary research turned up a lot of negative commentary (”your game is forever infected,” “you can’t get rid of it,” etc.). So I immediately removed links to my downloads until I could obtain more information.
I’m going to (eventually) go through my downloads and post a disclaimer about the bug and include a link to BoilingOil’s fix, for those who still want the lots. I enjoy sharing lots – I’m not much of a cc creator, so I always felt it was my way to give back to the community. I’d hate to stop doing that, but I’ll need to make sure everyone is aware of the possibility of the bug and takes necessary precautions.
Again, no worries. In fact, thank you for bringing it to my attention. I don’t know how long it’s been there, so I appreciate knowing about it now. 🙂 And I hope the fix took care of everything for you! I’m sorry for any trouble I caused. D:
I’m going to quote BoilingOil, because I’m not familiar with it myself (having never experienced it in my own game):
“The Debug Super Duper Hug is a special autonomous testing interaction that allows any sim to hug any other sim without the fear of being rejected. This hug is very effective and make sims into friends very fast. Some people [modders] use it as a template for creating new interactions, where the original is kept on as a fallback. When such a mod is later removed, the Super Duper Hug is then introduced by the game to compensate for the missing interaction. My No Sim Loaded mod protects against this annoying phenomenon.”
Basically, your Sims will keep going around trying to give hugs. From what I’ve read from people who had it in their game, it is incessant and annoying (and as iCad pointed out, may cause your Sims to make a lot of enemies if the hug gets rejected). It’s more of a nuisance than anything – it won’t break your game or cause neighborhood corruption. But for some people, having a buggy game in any terms is (understandably) unacceptable. For me, personally, if there’s no long-term damage and there’s a fix to suppress it, I don’t have a problem with it and I’m not going to go crazy reinstalling and starting from scratch. But it is incredibly viral and spreads through lot downloads, and once you have it you always have it. So if/when I share lots in the future, I have an obligation to let downloaders know of its presence (and, of course, link to the fix, which everyone should have in their game already, bug or no bug).
Downloads are still offline for now until I add a disclaimer to all of them…
Oh no, I’m sorry to hear that. 😦 This is the first I’m being told that one of my lots carries it. (Can anyone else please confirm this?) I will remove links to my lot downloads until further notice.
As far as I know, nothing will get rid of it, but a mod like BoilingOil’s No Sim Loaded will suppress it. You won’t need to do anything special when you load your game, it works automatically when you open a lot and continues to work in the background to get rid of the bug and other garbage tokens.
Again, I’m very sorry this happened. If I’d had prior knowledge of it being present in my game, I wouldn’t have put my lots up for download.
TBH, I think eventually everyone who A) Downloads lots and/or B) Has mods which they then screw around with and remove and re-install and whatnot will get the Super Hug thing. It’s just going to happen, inevitably. I might have it, but I wouldn’t know because I’ve had No Sim Loaded that Fi linked to installed for…Well, as long as the mod has existed, pretty much. BUT! I don’t think this should discourage anyone from downloading or sharing lots. Simply get BoilingOil’s mod and all is well. You never have to worry about the issue again. It’s a mod that everyone ought to have, really. Same as the anti-corruption ones, if you’re a person who plays neighborhoods long-term.
…That said, anyone who knows for certain that they have the Super Hug and who shares lots ought to let people know about this. In fact, probably everyone who shares lots, period, should let others know about this, since lot sharing is how the bug propagates between users. So, consider this MY notice, as a person who shares lots. 🙂
This is true – I don’t download many lots these days, but I do play around with my mods all the time. If I have the SDHB in my game, I haven’t noticed it because of BO’s mod.
I don’t have experience with this issue (it never actually occurred in my game), so I don’t know to what degree it bothers people. Like you said, iCad, you wouldn’t even know if you had it because BO’s mod keeps it suppressed. But I guess it can be an issue for some people? Maybe I’ll consider putting the download links up but with a disclaimer about the bug, so people can make their own decision whether or not they’d feel comfortable downloading. I feel guilty for being a “carrier” and not knowing, though. :X
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